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  This thread is for proof that God exists

  by juandefiero in

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  2. friends

  however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

  if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

  (1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

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  Y= other factors that make up reality
  I am convinced that the physical universe is only part of reality.

  So we know that scientist understand "physical" reality. Do we know that there's another group of people who understand the "other factors that make up reality?"

  If so, how does this other group know there are other factors?

  What methodology do the use to determine those other factors?
  

  What are those other factors?

  Who is this group that knows about these other factors?

  Is there consensus in the group about those other factors?
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  They locked the doors.

  by outcast in

  1. jw
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  taken from great crowd.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------.

  rebekah called us at 6 am and it was.

  very clear that she was traumatized by this event.

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  Agreed Millie210, but I certainly wouldn't put it past the WT to manipulate and distort the truth. Perhaps their was a tour group in the building that they provided water to so that means they were "sheltering people".

  They regularly redefine terms so they can make themselves look better.
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  Conversation with JW mom on this years memorial date and Nissan 14 discrepancy.

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm having an ongoing texting conversation with my mom right now on the march 23rd memorial date.

  she completely goes into cult mode.. me: why is the memorial on march 23rd this year and not april 22nd/23rd when the corresponding nissan 14 commences?

  since when did the organization stop following the jewish calendar for passover?.

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  If all you care to do is find fault with the organization or that I havent done enough research. Think what you want.

  Mom, do you think it is important to "examine everything carefully" like it says at 1 Thessalonians 5:21?

  What do you think it meant by Proverbs 14:18 when it says, "The naive will inherit foolishness but the shrewd are crowned with knowledge."? To be crowned in knowledge don't we have to make sure we have accurate information? Isn't that the most shrewd thing we can do?
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  10 years in prison and 2,000 lashes for saying he was an Atheist

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. current

  the tide of disbelief is rising and only fools think they can stop it.

  but some are too stupid to understand that fact, as this news story from saudi arabia demonstrates:.

  american ally saudi arabia is the perpetrator of this crime against humanity.

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  Every culture is proud. And many cultures are ancient. But being proud and being ancient says nothing about the value of your culture.

  If a culture doesn't value human life and doesn't value open and honest discussion then it's a culture not worth preserving.

  To hell with the Theocrats.
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  They locked the doors.

  by outcast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  taken from great crowd.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------.

  rebekah called us at 6 am and it was.

  very clear that she was traumatized by this event.

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  I remember a letter being read in the KH a couple of months after 9/11 that said witnesses who were walking out of Manhattan after the towers collapsed across the Brooklyn Bridge were able to take up shelter in Bethel and it was "brotherly love" blah blah blah.

  But this thread seems to directly contradict that. Even a letter from a supposed Bethelite seems to indicate they were not letting anyone into the building.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/12113/another-jw-account-wtc

  Anyone have anything more solid on this?
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  Do the GB want the JW religion to fail?

  by Grey Goose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  basically what the thread title says.. do you guys think the gb want the jw religion to fail?

  of course failing in the ultimate sense is just not going to happen.

  no matter how bankrupt they went, there is always going to be a percentage that holds on.. but downsizing the membership?

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  "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
  -Hanon's Razor

  While the GB are breathtakingly arrogant I none the less believe it's a sincere form of arrogance. And I think it's a mistake to say they're just in it for the money or don't actually believe Jesus is going to come flying out of the sky riding a white horse any day now.
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  What TV shows were forbidden in your JW household?

  by Funchback in

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  2. entertainment

  in the u.s., three's company was not allowed.

  it was explained to me that it was an immoral show because a man and women lived together and no one was married.

  the sister who gave this observation was a family friend and we were newbies to the religion.. at least i somehow managed to watch the benny hill show undetected..

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  Power Rangers

  The Simpsons

  Bewitched (oddly I Dream a Genie was okay though)

  Dawson's Creek

  Buffy the Vampire Slayer

  90210 (not that I wanted to watch it)

  And couldn't watch Star Trek TNG when it first aired
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  Is Revelation a false prophecy; was Luke 21:8 written to discredit it; or is this a massively overlooked bible contradition?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at luke 21:8 jesus is recorded as telling his disciples:.

  "look out that you are not deceived; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'i am he', and, 'the due time has approached.

  at revelation 1:1-3 we read:.

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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Good riddance, their departure is a fresh breath of air.

  I enjoy honest debates - honest questions and honest answers. But I have little patience for subterfuge or fallacious apologetics.
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  This thread is for proof that God exists

  by juandefiero in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

  if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

  (1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

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  Why is reality constructed in such a way that evolution tends to produce in some sense predictable, or recurring, challenges/outcomes?
  -SBF

  This is a loaded question - it's an attempts to limit direct replies to only those that support the questioners agenda. It's equivalent to asking, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

  There is no evidence that reality is constructed on behalf of biological processes. Rather, biological processes are one specific aspect of reality. We could easily replace your question with just about anything.

  Why is reality constructed in such a way that it tends to produce:

  • Black holes
  • Rocks
  • Orange Cats
  • Saturday morning cartoons
  • Farts
  • etc.

  It's as if there is something deep within the structure of the universe that tends toward the outcomes we observe as subjects/objects.

  Have you not heard of physics? Cause and effect? Action and reaction? It's not something "deep within the structure" that causes outcomes. It is the structure that causes outcomes.

  You're a bit like a guy who walks into a crowded restaurant and sees that a hundred people are all sitting in the dining hall and asks, "What is it that all these people have in common that they happen to be here at the same time? What is the common thread?"

  Is it because they're all hungry? No, some of them aren't eating.

  Is it because they all live nearby? No, many of them are from out of town.

  Is it because they all did x, y, or z? No, some portion of them didn't do x, y, or z.

  And you keep on fretting over the question not realizing the question is the answer. What they all have in common is they're all in the restaurant at the same time! And what brought each person there is entirely different and unrelated circumstances.